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May 30, 2005, 08:42:42 PM (#30)

i have half brothers & a half sister on my dad's side & a half sister on my mom's side. no way, would i look at my brother Noel & go "hey.. we have the same dad, different moms but let's make out or whatever".
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May 30, 2005, 08:51:45 PM (#31)

i would think if it were between two older sibblings,cousins,step-sibblings 16+ and it was purely for sexual gratification no strings no emotion just to get your respective rocks off and being ultra careful with birth control and having morning after pills ready just in case of condom breakage, if two could really leave it at nothing but physical then it would be ok in my book. Now if i ever had kids and they started fucking and i found out, i would be more dissapointed then angry because we all know what it is like to have pent up sexual desires and feelings. I would ask them why, and tell them to seriously look for lovers out in the world normally, and then yell " try to avoid fucking each other and get out and meet people" Because i seriously belive that it is possible to have purely plutonic, physical emotionally barren sex and being cool with it between two strangers or relatives, using each other as sex toys basically, a "real" dildo and a "real" pussy/masterbator. And when they find someone out there in life they can and have to stop. This is they way i see it but it is probably not possible to remain emotionally disconnected between realatives.

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May 30, 2005, 08:55:55 PM (#32)

zhuneycutt i dont think its possible to have sex no string attached. i mean you say there isnt anything but there is always somethign. and one of you will be coming abck for more. and if your siblings or related tehn there are issues and there are lots of strings wether you choose to acknowledge them or not

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May 30, 2005, 08:56:27 PM (#33)

but how can it be "no strings, no emotions" when it's a close family member & especailly if it's your brother/sister?
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May 30, 2005, 08:59:40 PM (#34)

yeah i am fully aware that is very likly not possible i was just presenting a senario that IF it could happen that way then it would be ok with me. But it is not going to so.... it was just a thought.

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May 30, 2005, 09:21:50 PM (#35)

incest is perceived in society to be wrong for a reason.
1. the obvious physical birth defects that can occur if conception occurs
2. the emotional problems that arise as a result of sexual activity between siblings. you spend most of your life with your family members and if sex comes into the picture it creates conflict and ruins relationships between family members and deep down everyone knows that u can only count on family so society ensures those relationships arent ruined with sex.

im referring to sex between siblings because sex between parent and child or a similar relationship is obviously morally wrong for similar reasons except it becomes more of a dominant 'pack' related relationship from animal kingdoms.

hmm.. i was just thinking it goes back to the underlying purpose of sex for humans. that is procreation. incest essentially hinders successful procreation by screwing around with the dna of the offspring, defects bla bla.. so an underlying basic human reaction is to stop that from happening. so incest is forbidden.
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May 30, 2005, 09:31:18 PM (#36)

It just sounded like you full out supported it. 

No. But as I was reading the thread it was sounding like a bad movie:
Jake: Jim-Bob, Ellie Mae says she wants to marry this here... what'd you say your name was boy?
Tyrone: Tyrone Jamal, sir.
Jake: Yeah, this here Tyroon boy. I don't think it's right. What do you think?
Jim-Bob: I don't think it's right neither. Why none of my family ever married none of them.
Willy: Me either. It's just not right. That's what I say. It's just not right.

And I was going like "Wait a second. I can accept that it's not right for you, but what makes it wrong for someone else? What makes it intrisically wrong?" No one yet has provided an answer, though I do give you credit for at least trying. And you see the problem. You feel that it's wrong, but you don't know why. I don't have a problem with you feeling that it's wrong, but I would like you to understand for yourself why. A lot of misunderstandings come about because people quickly resort to practiced responses rather than considering a broader view. Consider what the kids of this country are being taught about a certain religion dominant on the other side of the globe. I'm not just doing this for sport. I'm trying to get people to think for themselves.

You'll find out as I post more here that I have a real issue with the words "right" and "wrong", as well as "good" and "bad". These words are judgements. You can judge for yourself, but rarely are you in a position to make a valid judgement for someone else. There are other words and phrases on my "dangerous words" list such as can't, should, if only, someday, always/never, ...

But that's another thread.
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May 30, 2005, 09:31:48 PM (#37)

incest is perceived in society to be wrong for a reason.
1. the obvious physical birth defects that can occur if conception occurs
2. the emotional problems that arise as a result of sexual activity between siblings. you spend most of your life with your family members and if sex comes into the picture it creates conflict and ruins relationships between family members and deep down everyone knows that u can only count on family so society ensures those relationships arent ruined with sex.

im referring to sex between siblings because sex between parent and child or a similar relationship is obviously morally wrong for similar reasons except it becomes more of a dominant 'pack' related relationship from animal kingdoms.

hmm.. i was just thinking it goes back to the underlying purpose of sex for humans. that is procreation. incest essentially hinders successful procreation by screwing around with the dna of the offspring, defects bla bla.. so an underlying basic human reaction is to stop that from happening. so incest is forbidden.
I'd like to point out that the chances of birth defects caused by a Single interbreeding (of an otherwise diverse gene pool)
are -extremely- low....
Then again though i'm sure somewhere in our genome its programmed that we strive for genetic diversity (cause otherwise the human race woulda died out looong ago) so it could just be that primal instinct....

However consciously we had absolutely no clue about interbreeding birth defects until very recently in history. Yet incest has been considered bad for...well alot longer...on a conscious and socially ENFORCED level. So where did THAT come from???
Cause its not that you feel its something you shouldn't do...you KNOW its something you shouldn't do because it was taught to you...
The teaching had to start somewhere...and personally i think the issue is too much of a conscious level to be simply instinctual (its not like yanking your hand away from a burning hot object)


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May 30, 2005, 09:37:32 PM (#38)

Yeah, "right" and "wrong" rarely have black and white distinctions.  I can't say that I'll be able to provide a reason for myself as to why I think it's wrong in the next few hours or perhaps even the next few years.  There are many questions I presume I'll be asking myself for a long time and that's fine.  I like challenging my own thoughts and viewpoints and I like others to challenge me.  Wouldn't make much of a discussion if everyone agreed, would it?
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May 30, 2005, 09:44:21 PM (#39)

I can't say why I think its wrong, but when two siblings willingly have sex with each other I think they have serious mental problems. When you're 6 years old and play doctor its fine - you're both curious about the others body and you don't understand sex.

I think its disgusting and wrong, but I can't support my reason, so it must be the way I was brought up.

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